Fatality Festival

What I heard of the reactions here is that your set at Daylight contained quite some mistakes mixing wise, but everyone's pretty positive about your performance at Defqon. Buying CDJ's and practicing at home would certainly improve your on stage performance.

Iedereen zegt wel dat hij mixfoutjes maakt.

Maar nu hij er naar vraagt, hoeft niet iedereen het zelfde nog eens te zeggen. Zeg dan wat voor mixfouten hij maakt, zoals hij vraagt.

Wat ik kan maken van de reacties op de vorige pagina is dat er altijd 2de climax -> op intro wordt ingemixt met hier en daar een beatmatch foutje. Is me zelf eigenlijk nog nooit opgevallen maargoed.

I think its hard for people to exactly pinpoint where things go wrong, but i really think practice is key. If you feel more confident using the CDJ's it'll improve all the aspects of mixing! Your colleague Unresolved had some (way bigger) issues when he started, and even he's got the hang of it nowadays.

It never was embarrisingly bad or anything, but definitely some room for improvement And i saw you perform at the Spoontech Label night and at Qapital and i could already hear how much your mixing improved!

MindDimension wrote:Hello everyone, i'm Alberto (Mind Dimension)
Thanks to everyone for the kind messages about my tracklists and recent tracks, but there's something that i would like to ask you.
I've read that some of you doesn't like the way i mix tracks and i'm really, really sorry to read that.
I always had the feeling that my sets weren't perfect yeah, but at least "Ok", without big tempo or beat matching mistakes. I'm always trying to improve on what i do,in order to give you the best experience possible, but probably i didn't give enough attention on the mixing part as i did on producing and on choosing tracklists.
So, what you guys don't like of my sets? Which part of the mix should be improved? Volumes transitions,effects, or something else?
I'm not using this as excuse, but i don't have cdj's at home and i can't do any practice, all the experience i have comes from my past gigs, so not being 100% familiar with the instruments doesn't help...
If you want to answer in Dutch to be more specific it's ok, i'll ask to a friend to translate!
Thanks in advance, and sorry for the Off Topic

See you at Fatality!

Hi. Thanks for taking some time to post here. I was at both your Defqon and Daylight sets. Can't really recall any mistakes in your Defqon set, but I do remember your Daylight set quite well. I will try to sum them up:
- Beatmatch mistakes. Heard quite some of them. This is just practice.
- Long outro's. Sometimes playing the whole song (including outro); might be because you couldn't beat match the two tracks within the first 2-3 tries.
- Fading out tracks too late, like 4 seconds after the breakdown of the new track.
- Timing. Mixing in a new track with an intro of 38 seconds and fading out the other track after 26 seconds. Can be prevented with some hotcue's, so all of your intro's become 26 seconds long (which is equal to 32 bars).

Not trying to be negative, just some constructive critism/help. 90% of the people won't even notice this, so it's not really a big deal. For me it's just really weird to see someone, who is so talented in producing music, having a hard time at mixing, because for me producing music is like 100 times harder than mixing. I hope you can practice some at home (maybe a nearby club where you can ask if you can practice during closing hours?). In my opinion, it's a waste of money to buy a whole CDJ-2000 system. I learned how to mix on CDJ-100's (from like the early 1990's), which costed me around 250 euro's total for 2 (used) together wit ha really cheap, basic mixing panel. You don't even have a BPM counter on those things, so if you can mix on those, you can mix on everything.

Good luck and looking forward to your Fatality set!

Well said RomanAnthony. I agree 100% on your post.

Just learn the basics of mixing on some old gear, it isn't expensive and in a short time you will take your advantage from it. I also have learned the basics on simple cd players without a good working bpm counter

Can't wait for your set @ Fatality! Loved the one @ Defqon.

Welkom MD!

Anthor wrote:Zou tof zijn. Helemaal als dat nog lukt voor Fatality

Hier staan er trouwens gewoon 2:

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RomanAnthony wrote: Hi. Thanks for taking some time to post here. I was at both your Defqon and Daylight sets. Can't really recall any mistakes in your Defqon set, but I do remember your Daylight set quite well. I will try to sum them up:
- Beatmatch mistakes. Heard quite some of them. This is just practice.
- Long outro's. Sometimes playing the whole song (including outro); might be because you couldn't beat match the two tracks within the first 2-3 tries.
- Fading out tracks too late, like 4 seconds after the breakdown of the new track.
- Timing. Mixing in a new track with an intro of 38 seconds and fading out the other track after 26 seconds. Can be prevented with some hotcue's, so all of your intro's become 26 seconds long (which is equal to 32 bars).

Not trying to be negative, just some constructive critism/help. 90% of the people won't even notice this, so it's not really a big deal. For me it's just really weird to see someone, who is so talented in producing music, having a hard time at mixing, because for me producing music is like 100 times harder than mixing. I hope you can practice some at home (maybe a nearby club where you can ask if you can practice during closing hours?). In my opinion, it's a waste of money to buy a whole CDJ-2000 system. I learned how to mix on CDJ-100's (from like the early 1990's), which costed me around 250 euro's total for 2 (used) together wit ha really cheap, basic mixing panel. You don't even have a BPM counter on those things, so if you can mix on those, you can mix on everything.

Good luck and looking forward to your Fatality set!

No worries man, thanks for taking the time to explain that! It's really usefull for me to understand what you mean.
As you said, buying a whole CDJ-2000 system it's too expensive and there lot of ways to spend those money better.
Yeah ahah producing is way more complex, but at home i can do all the practice i need Will have a look for some old cdj's, or a studio where i can use them for some hours.
I remember that at Daylight some transitions were not good, hope not that much to make it not enjoyable! And yeah, i just got from Q-Dance my set at Defqon.1 and it was quite good... Need more practice and trying to be more focused on what i do while performing definitely!
Thanks for the feedbacks guyss! I hope that my next set at Fatality will be better

Not to make you nervous, but many of us from here will probably be there so make it legendary . Play some older tracks will you

RomanAnthony wrote:26 seconds long (which is equal to 32 bars).

26 sec is 16 bars (64 beats)
1 bar is 4 beats

ShatterDJ wrote:

RomanAnthony wrote:26 seconds long (which is equal to 32 bars).

26 sec is 16 bars (64 beats)
1 bar is 4 beats

Oh. Ik heb mezelf alles aangeleerd, dus het zou inderdaad zomaar kunnen dat ik alle theorie misschien niet helemaal juist heb. Weten in ieder geval wat ik bedoel

MindDimension wrote: No worries man, thanks for taking the time to explain that! It's really usefull for me to understand what you mean.
As you said, buying a whole CDJ-2000 system it's too expensive and there lot of ways to spend those money better.
Yeah ahah producing is way more complex, but at home i can do all the practice i need Will have a look for some old cdj's, or a studio where i can use them for some hours.
I remember that at Daylight some transitions were not good, hope not that much to make it not enjoyable! And yeah, i just got from Q-Dance my set at Defqon.1 and it was quite good... Need more practice and trying to be more focused on what i do while performing definitely!
Thanks for the feedbacks guyss! I hope that my next set at Fatality will be better

Absolutely not, I really enjoyed your set. And as I said: like 90% of the people won't even notice (even though 90% of the people still wasn't that many people at Daylight, which sucked haha).

And +++ that your set from Defqon was recorded. Looking forward to it!

Good luck .

@MindDimension: They don't need to be CDJ's, there's a couple of other good DJ CD/USB players that work just fine for playing at home and learning how to beatmatch etc.
I have Numark NDX 400 but the problem with those is that the CUE system is slightly different from CDJ's.
Just compare some of the cheaper ones, look at reviews & ratings, there's decent ones out there for under 350 a piece.

Mind Dimension,

There is another option to spice up "the mixing" experience. Most Dj's prefer to make the transitions from the climax (or second climax) of track 1 to the mix-intro of track 2. This is the most easy way to switch between tracks. But there's also something called "bass-switches or kick switches". It just means there's 64 kicks from track 1, quickly fade out the bass of track 1 and open the bass channel of track 2 which continues with another 64 kicks. It takes some practice (especially with tracks you don't know perfectly), but I and probably a lot of others like it when Dj's make use of them. It keeps the drive in a set.

You can even produce your tracks in a way you HAVE to make use of them.
Example:
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You can hear that this example has 64 claps (26seconds) and after that 64 kicks (also 26seconds) as a mix-intro. You can easily make use of a kickswitch here.

I have no idea if you understand what I mean, but this is just a tip or something you maybe can use in the future.

RomanAnthony wrote:

ShatterDJ wrote:

RomanAnthony wrote:26 seconds long (which is equal to 32 bars).

26 sec is 16 bars (64 beats)
1 bar is 4 beats

Oh. Ik heb mezelf alles aangeleerd, dus het zou inderdaad zomaar kunnen dat ik alle theorie misschien niet helemaal juist heb. Weten in ieder geval wat ik bedoel

Ik reken nooit in bars en seconden, ik reken altijd in beats. Meestal dan ook in blokken van 8 en 32 beats

Helicaze wrote:Mind Dimension,

There is another option to spice up "the mixing" experience. Most Dj's prefer to make the transitions from the climax (or second climax) of track 1 to the mix-intro of track 2. This is the most easy way to switch between tracks. But there's also something called "bass-switches or kick switches". It just means there's 64 kicks from track 1, quickly fade out the bass of track 1 and open the bass channel of track 2 which continues with another 64 kicks. It takes some practice (especially with tracks you don't know perfectly), but I and probably a lot of others like it when Dj's make use of them. It keeps the drive in a set.

You can even produce your tracks in a way you HAVE to make use of them.
Example:
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You can hear that this example has 64 claps (26seconds) and after that 64 kicks (also 26seconds) as a mix-intro. You can easily make use of a kickswitch here.

I have no idea if you understand what I mean, but this is just a tip or something you maybe can use in the future.

Laat hem eerst maar de basis goed onder de knie krijgen voordat hij allerlei moeilijke capriolen gaat uithalen

I don't have a problem with your mixing skills, but my tip is to mix a little faster. Just move on to the next track after the first climax, or maybe skip a mid-intro sometimes, so your set has more drive.

Nou, Noctus Noa inmixen lijkt me nu niet echt een moeilijke opgave. Ik gaf het maar mee als tip, dat ie zijn platen ook anders kan opbouwen. Hier vroeg hij tenslotte om. Bij bv. Mind Dimension - Most Wanted kan je niet anders dan inmixen dan op de mixintro. Als je wat veel van die platen in een set stopt, haal je alle drive weg.

Ben het wel met je eens Helicaze. Vroeger had je volgens mij vaker platen die na een intro van 26 sec doorliepen in gelijk een mid (Sasha F - Artificial Reality bijv). Op deze manier kun je ook wat afwisselender mixwerk neerzetten 26 sec intro + 13 sec break en dan gelijk een mid vind ik zelf ook fijn om in te mixen en daarmee dan een kickswitch te doen.

Ik hoop eigenlijk dat de Spoontech stage rond 11 uur is afgelopen. Dan kan ik alles nog meemaken en daarna met de trein naar huis

yannickvk wrote:

Anthor wrote:Zou tof zijn. Helemaal als dat nog lukt voor Fatality

Hier staan er trouwens gewoon 2:

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Die bpm trouwens

Kaartje dan ook eindelijk maar is gehaald. Wss ook wel de hele dag te vinden bij Spoontech met uiteraard aantal uitstapjes.

Morgen komt de Time Table

RoyAPO wrote:Morgen komt de Time Table

https://www.facebook.com/fatalityevent/ ... 51/?type=3

Deels tevreden met deze time table en b2b setjes. Waarschijnlijk een dagje Spoon met uitstapje naar MYST.