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jambekkie wrote:ID&T en Q-Dance dus hmmm... Geld geld geld geld geld.
Het is een commercieel bedrijf, die zijn inderdaad met geld bezig. Had je anders verwacht?
Inderdaad, het is geen stichting. Snap de haat tegen geld verdienen sowieso niet.
Och och..
Omdat geld een averechtse werking heeft in een muzieksector.
Dat snappen jullie echt hea. Als jij denkt dat het hun nog puur om de muziek gaat, heb je het mis.
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De meeste mensen willen ook die grote namen zien dus niet zo vreemd dat die er staan he.
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jambekkie wrote:
Omdat geld een averechtse werking heeft in een muzieksector.
Dat snappen jullie echt hea. Als jij denkt dat het hun nog puur om de muziek gaat, heb je het mis.
Het kan dan nog wel om geld gaan in de muzieksector, maar dat neemt niet weg dat het daardoor de verkeerde kant (in mijn ogen) op gaat
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jambekkie wrote:
Omdat geld een averechtse werking heeft in een muzieksector.
Dat snappen jullie echt hea. Als jij denkt dat het hun nog puur om de muziek gaat, heb je het mis.
Het kan dan nog wel om geld gaan in de muzieksector, maar dat neemt niet weg dat het daardoor de verkeerde kant (in mijn ogen) op gaat
Omdat sommige het hier de verkeerde kant op vinden gaan (hiermee bedoelen ze volgens mij ze vinden die muziek niet of minder leuk) gaat het alleen nog maar om geld. Dat wat jullie vinden hoeft een ander nog niet te vinden en als iets commercieler wordt, betekent dat niet dat het die bedrijven niets meer om de muziek geven, maar enkel nog aan geld geven.
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Nogmaals: discussie wordt ondertussen ergens anders gevoerd om dit topic een beetje schoon te houden. Graag daar verder: Discussie: Muziek, Geld en Faam

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Showtek pissed zijn op Flosstradamus omdat ze hun tracks sampelen (+ die van HHZ en isaac)
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:huh: mensen dien het ook liken/waarderen :sick:
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Buiten het feit dat het ripjes zijn, zijn het ook nog eens een paar van de slechts geproduceerde tracks ooit... :S
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Snap niet waarom ze zulke personen aandacht geven..
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Clock Kid wrote:Showtek pissed zijn op Flosstradamus omdat ze hun tracks sampelen (+ die van HHZ en isaac)
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:huh: mensen dien het ook liken/waarderen :sick:
Dat vind ik nog niet zo raar, mensen die Showtek / Headhunterz / Isaac niet kennen kunnen dit opzich best tof vinden, vind het raarder dat Headhunterz en Isaac er positief op reageren. Komt volgens mij toch vrij weinig creativiteit bij kijken.
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I honestly don't give a sh*t. I love how they did it.@livnthedreamovo @showtekmusic @dutchmasterdj @flosstradamus @djheadhunterz @datweekaz
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@showtekmusic @flosstradamus I don't really care. It's like hiphop sampling funk. Maybe they'll even get new kids to discover my music
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Wel briljant hoe Showtek die Flosstradamus te kijk zet met hun tweets.
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Volgens mij draait het bij dit soort muziek om veel tracks produceren die je kort draait op een feest, net zoals bij jump/tek bijv. en moombahton. Natuurlijk pakt niet iedereen het zo aan maar veel wel. Dan komt er per track idd niet veel creativiteit kijken. Toch zou ik liever wat meer credits naar originele artiesten zien.
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Deafqon. :lol:
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Ik zag het inderdaad al toen ik nar Ajax - R Madrid, erg vet die wanden!
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Toch vind ik dat je als DJ daar behoorlijk trots op mag zijn! Het ziet er vet uit!
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Squid wrote:Wel briljant hoe Showtek die Flosstradamus te kijk zet met hun tweets.
Ja alleen komt het wel raar over aangezien walt 50% van showtek is haha.
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Phase 2 wrote:Wel briljant hoe Showtek die Flosstradamus te kijk zet met hun tweets.
Flosstradamus zijn zeker ook geen kleine jongens hoor...
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Phase 2 wrote:Wel briljant hoe Showtek die Flosstradamus te kijk zet met hun tweets.
Flosstradamus zijn zeker ook geen kleine jongens hoor...
Inderdaad, dat vind ik juist het schrijnende aan het verhaal. Zie trouwens dat Headhunterz zijn tweets erover heeft verwijderd. https://twitter.com/djheadhunterz
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It's about time the hardstyle scene makes some protest against Flosstradamus. I had an issue with these guys in the beginning of the year because they sampled my track Recalled to Life and released under a new name. (Totall Recall.. how original!)
They ripped about everything from Recalled to Life. The vocals, the melody, the distorted sounds. The only thing they did was making it a bit slower and drop a drum 'n bass loop under the track. Wow.. very creative. Top producers! NOT!

Dutch Master Works and my publisher made some protest against this track and the only thing they could do is ask them to remove all material they where spreading. They didn't release the track at official download portals but gave it away for free. A smart way to make name and fame with somebody else his track without getting sued! Because they didn't earn money with selling the track we couldn't do anything. Meanwhile they where making a good name with MY music! Their Total Recall was played in a Tiësto podcast and used in a MTV show. You can image how pissed off I was. Flosstradamus asked if we wanted to release it as a remix. We didn't want to do this because they already released it under their own name without giving me credits. Really disrespecting. We didn't want to do business with this kind of guys!

I decided to not share this with all hardstyle fans and forget it. I didn't want to give them more promotion. But now they also ripped the DefQon.1 anthem from Showtek and tracks from DJ Isaac(Sound of the Underground), Headhunterz(The Fear Of Darkness), Second Identity (A-lusion & Scope DJ) - Modified and Da Tweekaz.

It's crazy these guys are sampling hardstyle music so shameless and make carreer as awesome producers. Hardstyle scene stand up and tell them what you think!

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With all this "omg you stole my music!!!" going around, why isn't anyone taking a step back and realizing many artists in this scene have made it famous doing the same thing?

I've been making music since 2006 -- and for maybe 85% of that time, I've had to fight, kick, and scream just to get proper credit. I've had producers openly steal credit for work I've done, and claim my work as their own in interviews.

It's shitty to go around taking credit, and it sucks to be on that side of things: but if there's something good, take it and run with it. But let's not all pretend that the hardstyle scene is completely innocent of this -same- thing, if not worse... because I can point out several songs that I worked my heart out on that I am barely (if at all) credited for.

It's also fairly obvious to see artists that have stolen melodies to make something new, while profiting off the work of the person who originally composed it.

You can't have it both ways, guys. You may not agree with how it was done -- and while I think it's *BAD FORM* to try and re-title a track you didn't have permission to use, I think it's just as bad to pretend like this scene wasn't built on just that. Except instead of stealing from other producers, you stole from the vocalists, composers, and writers that formed the source of your "inspiration".
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Showtek is a Dutch Hard Dance act, consisting of two brothers, Sjoerd and Wouter Janssen, who started producing Techno in 2001. They changed to hardstyle in 2003, and released their first album, Today Is Tomorrow, under their self founded label Dutch Master Works in 2007. SHOWTEK were the first hardstyle act to release an album, and they followed up Today Is Tomorrow with Analogue Players in a Digital World in 2009. Wouter also produces hard trance tracks under the name "Walt", and Sjoerd produces solo hardstyle tracks under the name "Duro". In 2012, the SHOWTEK brothers began a series of collaborations, a project called Crazy Collabs, with other producers spanning some of the other genres in dance music.
The DJ List: For the people who are not familiar with SHOWTEK, can you guys give us a brief introduction and describe the type of music you guys make?

Hey we are SHOWTEK from the Netherlands and people really know us for our hard style of music. But these days we have a really broad sound that works everywhere and basically do not leave any genre untouched. We produce with guys like Tiesto and HARDWELL, we just love music and go from left to right and front to back, but it is always SHOWTEK. We actually present a harder style of party music, but always more about the energy than the hardness.

The DJ List: This has been a really big year for you guys, tell us, what have you been up to?

Well we have been doing a lot of new production. The main thing has been that we expanded our sound a bit, it has become a little less heavier. We started this project called crazy collab and the idea behind that is that we are going to collaborate with any artist from any genre that we really like, admire and have fun with in the studio. The first collaboration was with Tiesto, which actually turned out very well and after that it was with HARDWELL. We have another one coming up with NOISECONTROLLERS and another collaboration with BASSJACKERS, which is going to be on Spinnin Records. We just want to make something new, because there are so many genres out there right now. We just want to evolve and create something different. I think even wise the highlight of this year has been Identity fest. Which was a tour that went all across America. It was definitely a highlight for us, because we had a tour bus for 6 weeks and went all across America.

The DJ List: You guys did a massive collaboration with Tiesto, how this that project come together?

We had been working with Tiesto for 2 years already. We co-produced with tracks like Maximal Crazy, Tornado and some other stuff. So we did a lot of engineering on those tracks and he was like you guys should do some more stuff. Then he was the one who inspired us to grow as producers and because of him we found out that there is this whole new world open. We just wanted to make some more music that goes beyond our regular SHOWTEK sound. He is actually the guy who pushed us to do more. When we were out at EDC Las Vegas last year and so Tiesto drop maximal crazy and the crowd just went nuts. We knew we could do more with this and not just stick to hardstyle, but we felt like the whole scene was not ready for it, especially Europe. But now that EDM is so mainstream and mixed up with genres it is easier to do collaboration like the one we did with Tiesto.

The DJ List: What about the track with HARDWELL?

It has been doing very well, even on the national radio in Holland it is going crazy. It was the most played track on the national Dutch radio station SlamFM last month. We did not expect it to go this well, we just made the first cut and send it to HARDWELL. He called us a minute later and was like guys this melody is just off the roof. Can I come to the studio and make a collaboration with you guys. We actually had been talking about doing a collaboration together for a year, but because we are all so busy it just never happened. So we all had a day off, we got into the studio for a day and finished the track. But the next one will be with NOISECONTROLLERS and it is a bit harder. It is a track full with energy, and it is not hardstyle hard but just a bit under it. We are also having a collaboration with a new guy from Tiestos label called JUSTIN PRIME. He is a really talented guy and we decided to have a collaborate with him on the Musical Freedom label and its going to be released in November.

The DJ List: Anybody you really want to collaborate with in the future

The number one for us right now would be Knife Party at the moment. Knife Party is really good and we love their edginess and how they produce their tracks. We always not just listen to how the track sounds, but how it is produced as well. They have a lot of really unique elements and bring a lot of creativity to their tracks and that is why we would love to work with guys like that. They just have a great style or producing.

The DJ List: Arguably a lot of people have said for better or for worse that you guys changed your sound from hardstyle to a more commercial progressive house. What do you think contributed to this change?

We see it like this, people who complain on the internet is the same as when you are driving a car and someone cuts you off. You honk and might curse at him, but you never really get out of your car and knock on that persons window and say, Hey you fucking suck. The internet is just an easy way of saying something without being directly being in someones face. By some haters, I seriously think it is one out of a thousand and so if we say for example we have 250.000 fans and 250 of those are being negative and hating on the internet you just kind of brush that off. If you follow your heart and follow your passion and do what you really like the rest will follow. We feel like we did not change but rather expanded and we just wanted to do something different. People do not always realize that we have been doing this for almost 10 years and we still like to challenge ourselves. If our new track with NOISECONTROLLERS, it is very hard, it is very party style which we think really represent us. We always like to think, when people stop complaining something must be wrong.

The DJ List: What can we expect in the future?

The next big release will be of course with JUSTIN PRIME which will drop in November and in December we have the track with BASSJACKERS coming out titled, Hey and then in January we are releasing our track with NOISECONTROLLERS called Loose. That is enough for now, we are still working on some collaborations, but nothing really major besides the ones we mention. We might want to do an album, but we are really just going to see how it goes, because it is easy to just throw some tracks together and be like, here is the album. We would want to do something more special than that. As we mentioned we are still expanding our sound and trying to figure out what sound we really want to play and we think that should really be the focus right now. We wanted to leave it with one final thing. There is a really big difference between expanding and changing. We will never lose the hardness to our sound, but we are just expanding on what we play and produce. We are getting more mature as a person as well and we just want to teach people how to party in a different way. Love it or hate it, we will always be fucking SHOWTEK.
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Grote haat op die flostandestoker gevallen, maar niet na hunzelf kijken met al die bootlegs wie ze maken.
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Danny H wrote:Grote haat op die flostandestoker gevallen, maar niet na hunzelf kijken met al die bootlegs wie ze maken.
Het verschil hier is dat ze geen toestemming hebben gegeven hun muziek te gebruiken. En met bootlegs ga ik uit van wel.

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